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Pindos: The Short Film by Alla Eliseeva

For the uninformed, the word Pindos was introduced in the 19th century as a sobriquet for Greeks inhabiting the Black Sea region. Much later, Russian military personnel operating in Kosovo used it as a derogatory term to refer to the U.S. soldiers stationed there. As of today, pindos is simply a derogatory name for an American.

According to Politikus.ru, the Russians owe this linguistic innovation to the Serbs of Kosovo.

The way American soldiers dressed in Yugoslavia, with heavy packs and with bulletproof vests suggested to the Serbs, the site says, that they looked like penguins. And since the word for penguin in Serbian is “pindo,” the Serbs applied it as a term of contempt for the Americans.

Some Russians now speak of “Pindostan” as a variant and dismissive term for the United States.

Russian film director Alla Eliseeva filmed a short movie called Pindos, which illustrates the attitude of an average Russian towards Americans.

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  1. “Russian film director Alla Eliseeva filmed a short movie called Pindos, which illustrates the attitude of an average Russian towards Americans.”

    I don’t think this is the point of the movie. The point is that even the human scum in Russia possess this “mysterious Russian soul,” something that allowed Dostoyevski’s hero, the scumbag Rogozhin to simultaneously kill people, lament his killing them, self-loath, and expect love, respect, and understanding from everyone around. The creators of the movie clearly are sympathetic to the human (subhuman?) cockroaches they show. Disgusting!

    • I partially agree with you, that
      “The point is that even the human scum in Russia possess this “mysterious Russian soul”
      As for
      “The creators of the movie clearly are sympathetic to the human (subhuman?) cockroaches they show. ”
      Why not? We are all people after all.

  2. I will tell you why not: because this mythology about the “mysterious Russian soul” for decades if not centuries allowed the Russians to justify and excuse the brutal violence that their own governments perpetrated against them and the brutal violence they perpetrated towards all their neighbors. They screw the Czechs, Estonians, and Poles and tell them “Love me because I am so complex, see, I cry over my own scumness.” They are being screwed by the likes of Stalin and Putin and they tell them “I love you because I am so complex, see, I loath my own insignificance.” This is called degeneracy, and the movie is glorifying it.

    • Have you met many Russians in your life? Mixing politics and souls is like apples and oranges. Making claims that Russians “screwed the Czechs, Estonians, and Poles” and putting it together with the movie, Russian soul, Dostoevsky and such, is very inappropriate. Besides, do you even remember at what circumstances they “screwed the Czechs, Estonians, and Poles”. I wonder how did they screw them? How would you act in their shoes, if you were a simple folk? Also, is there only bad side to the story of screwing all these nations? I personally met some older generation Estonian, Czechs and Polish folks who were less agitated than you are with this topic….

  3. “Have you met many Russians in your life?”

    Yes. I am Russian. I was born in Russia. Lived there for many decades of my very long life.

    “Mixing politics and souls is like apples and oranges. Making claims that Russians “screwed the Czechs, Estonians, and Poles” and putting it together with the movie, Russian soul, Dostoevsky and such, is very inappropriate.”

    Making declarative statements like this is very inappropriate. When you see a Nazi propaganda film, you have to mix all these levels of the Nazi society is you have a speck of decency in you. Russia today is an amalgamation of fascism and communism.

    “Besides, do you even remember at what circumstances they “screwed the Czechs, Estonians, and Poles”.”

    Yes, I do. You could too, and if you are very young, you could learn some history.

    “I wonder how did they screw them?”

    They invaded Estonia, other Baltic republics, and Poland by an agreement with Hitler. They kept the Baltic republics in the Soviet prison for 40 years, and controlled Poland and Czechoslovakia as satellite countries of the Warsaw pact. They installed in Czechoslovakia and Poland genocidal communist regimes, and the invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968 when they wanted a bit of freedom. Shall I continue? Or could you do a bit of reading on your own?

    “How would you act in their shoes, if you were a simple folk? Also, is there only bad side to the story of screwing all these nations?”

    It is not screwing in the sexual sense, my dear Eli, so if you think of anyone getting pleasure of it, you are mistaken.

    “I personally met some older generation Estonian, Czechs and Polish folks who were less agitated than you are with this topic….”

    If this is an argument, you are hopelessly beaten, as you could not possibly meet as many as I did. But this is not an argument to begin with. You can congregate with Hitler and notice only that he likes his dog and his Eva Brown. You could commiserate with the “simply folks” in Nazi Germany: poor souls, what would you do if you were in their shoes?

  4. “Yes. I am Russian. I was born in Russia. Lived there for many decades of my very long life.”

    What a coincidence, I’m Russian as well.

    “Yes, I do. You could too, and if you are very young, you could learn some history.”

    Typical comment from a Russian 🙂 Do you even know how old I am? Or how much I know?

    “They invaded Estonia, other Baltic republics, and Poland by an agreement with Hitler. They kept the Baltic republics in the Soviet prison for 40 years, and controlled Poland and Czechoslovakia as satellite countries of the Warsaw pact. They installed in Czechoslovakia and Poland genocidal communist regimes, and the invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968 when they wanted a bit of freedom. Shall I continue? Or could you do a bit of reading on your own?”

    Everything in our life can be seen in comparison. For example, Russians are so bad. They invaded and what? In 2004, Americans invaded Iraq. As the result, 174,000 civilians were killed. And this is recent event, not some history lesson.

    “It is not screwing in the sexual sense, my dear Eli, so if you think of anyone getting pleasure of it, you are mistaken.”

    USSR provided decent economic opportunities, for example, for Estonia. Today, Estonia is not a sovereign country either, but noone complains for some reason. Also, look whats up in the EU today.

    “If this is an argument, you are hopelessly beaten, as you could not possibly meet as many as I did. But this is not an argument to begin with. You can congregate with Hitler and notice only that he likes his dog and his Eva Brown. You could commiserate with the “simply folks” in Nazi Germany: poor souls, what would you do if you were in their shoes?”

    I’m not protecting modern Russian regime, neither I think that simple people should be blamed. Look for example, what American government does. What can possibly Americans do about that?

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